Ep 58 - Truth & Treason: Church on Sunday, Resistance on Monday

We are joined by Christopher Cunningham and Ben Pacini to talk about Matt Whitaker’s 2025 film Truth and Treason, about LDS teen Helmuth Hübener’s anti-Hitler leaflet campaign in Nazi Germany and his execution. This film poses big questions like the balance between moral courage vs. risking others’ safety, how Church leaders and members navigate authoritarian regimes, and why trustworthy information and moral formation matter. We discuss mercy vs. justice, the complexities of authority and discipleship.

Best Books:

Liz - The Prince of Egypt; "The Angel"

Carl - Starfleet Academy (Paramount+); Nuremberg

Christopher - Elantris by Brandon Sanderson

Ben - Silo (Apple TV+); The Lincoln Lawyer (Netflix)

Links:

‘Mormon Land’: Was Helmuth Hübener, the LDS teen who stood up to Hitler, really ‘excommunicated’?

Radio West: Helmuth Hübener: The Young Latter-day Saint Who Exposed Nazi Lies

Radio West: Podcast Extra: “Truth & Treason” Director Matt Whitaker on Working with Angel Studios

Latter-day Saint Historical Studies

Find Us:

Carl - Threads: @CarlCranney

Liz - lizbusby.com

Christopher - Public Square Magazine; X: @PublicSquareMag

Ben - Facebook: Benjamin.Pacini

Audio mastering by Carl Cranney

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